Comments on: LENR is Cheap Energy Not Free Energy

By: jennifer

jennifer — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:01:21 +0000

Interesting point. Anybody can build a computer but most people don’t because it is cheaper to go out and buy one. I imagine that will be the case with this. It still will not be free you have to buy the materials to build it from. Comparatively free is an oxymoron. The accurate phrase is comparatively cheap not comparatively free. As for the motor home well that wouldn’t be much fun to drive would it. I have no desire to be driving around in a 30 yacht sized vehicle. That would be no fun to drive. One of my pet peeves is all the motor homes that clog up the highways in Colorado where I live in the summer time. I can’t drive to the grocery store without getting stuck behind one. We need less not more motor homes.

By: jennifer

jennifer — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:56:10 +0000

You’re right the invisible hand of the market will let this triumph. Monopolists, bureaucrats and politicians cannot stop it if they try they will end up on the ash heap of history. You’re about conflicts over oil. Sending currency abroad for energy makes no sense. Free means simply you don’t have to pay anything for anything. It’s impossible and I might point out the word free is essentially meaningless. Cheap is the accurate description here. There is no such thing as free. Anybody who says something is free is probably trying to pull a fast one on you like all the buy one get one free offers in advertising. Note you have to pay to get the free item.

By: jennifer

jennifer — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:52:53 +0000

I don’t know how many people would pay I imagine most of the populations of the United States, Canada, Northern Europe, Russia, Japan and China would (myself included). I cannot see how the monopolists can stop this. Any more than buggy makers could stop Henry Ford It’s coming. The profits from this will astronomical by the way. Many of the so called monopolists will simply jump on the LENR bandwagon because it is heading straight to the bank.

By: jennifer

jennifer — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:49:49 +0000

Unfortunately it has not demonstrated yet. There’s no way to know if numbers are right until the technology is up and operating. Rossi keep changing the price and Defkalion hasn’t even said what they would charge. We need to see the technology working.

By: Dutch Student

Dutch Student — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:57:02 +0000

So 100 10kW units (or 1MW in total) will set me back 150,000 dollars, while a single 1MW units costs 10 times as much….I’m not a pro-businessman, but normally speaking, the price/watt should go down when the total wattage goes up. If you are trying to make people believe in LENR and focus on cost only, (what is riduculous since the technology isnt even here yet, discuss that first), make sure your numbers are right, because this way you’re just feeding the non-believers.

Ow….and everybody screaming this is great ‘silver bullet’ technolgy and stuff doesnt work. Showing working technology which is great, is great technology.

By: Malicious Revenger

Malicious Revenger — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:56:59 +0000

“The 10 kilowatt home model would cost between $1,000-$1,500 apiece.”

Has anyone any idea, how much money people pay for an energy efficient heating system to keep the house warm in winter? The above mentioned cost to produce electricity at home is marginal and just in comparison. It is rather so, that monopolists in the energy market don’t like to see dwindeling theyr income.

By: Brad Arnold

Brad Arnold — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:55:06 +0000

Yeah, it is so very very inexpensive (compared to other forms of energy generation) that it blows them out of the water.

Furthermore, it is clean. That means the invisible hand of the market, not legislation, will force people to cut their GHG emissions dramatically.

Finally, it is super abundant. Many of the conflicts lately (the Iraq war?) have been fought at least partially over access to oil. Many countries’ economies are being bled white by sending their currency abroad to import energy. No more fuel shortages either.

Yes, LENR isn’t “free energy” (whatever that means, since it it obvious to anyone that free means realitively free as in very cheap, clean, and abundant), but it is a silver bullet energy technology.

By: kwhilborn

kwhilborn — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:45:03 +0000

Really?
1kg Nickel = 200 000+ barrels of oil is a LOT cheap.

Don’t get me wrong the costs of the reactors as they are currently is also stupid. A reactor can be built by any nerd/plumber but has less moving parts than most items in any dollar store.

It’s not like the police can arrest you for having a reactor. If a patent holder knew you had one then they could launch a civil suit against you. This will be widely replicated.

We know from AR and the NASA video that part of the catalyst is CARBON.

I can see e-cats and their replicas selling for under $75 each for home units. You might need a few pounds of lead for shielding, but what else is there? Heating coil?

If the claimed excess heat is even 1/4 of what is claimed then we will soon have e-cat cars and homes.

Instead of thinking of a small “leaf” type electric car imagine buying a 30 foot motor-home to traverse the 30 minutes to work. It may sound like an exaggeration; but why drive a mini when your car comes with a lifetime worth of fuel.
You might be happy for the on board washrooms once the service stations start vanishing.

Before imagining this energy will be expensive in any way you need to look at the simplicity of the reactor. The only moving part may be for loading/cleaning nickel.

Nickel is the fifth most common element on the planet. There is also no shortage of carbon/hydrogen. This energy will be so cheap it may as well be free.

LENR = “comparitivelly” free energy. That’s fact.