Comments on: Questionable Attack on Rossi and Ecat attracts too much Attention http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention Cold Fusion Energy & LENR News Sat, 18 May 2013 17:24:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: jennifer http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-303 jennifer Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:14:56 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-303 Thanks. Thanks.

]]> By: jennifer http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-302 jennifer Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:14:15 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-302 I just have to wonder why are the Australia Skeptics so threatened by Andrea Rossi and his device. If he can't deliver a working device in the near future he'll be disproved without your help. You're making yourself look silly by listening to Dick Smith and his claims. I wonder how anybody can call themselves a scientist and make observations solely based on schematics? That sounds like the opposite of Skepticism to me. I just have to wonder why are the Australia Skeptics so threatened by Andrea Rossi and his device. If he can’t deliver a working device in the near future he’ll be disproved without your help. You’re making yourself look silly by listening to Dick Smith and his claims. I wonder how anybody can call themselves a scientist and make observations solely based on schematics? That sounds like the opposite of Skepticism to me.

]]> By: Dr M. Malengret http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-301 Dr M. Malengret Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:12:41 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-301 Measuring power with more than two wires can easily lead to very wrong measurement of power ! It easy to send an additional 12 KW through a normal size earth wire ( 4 mm2 ) . The return current could be the comon neutral wire. Most likely a single phase wattmeter was used and connected so as to mesures current in the live wire and the voltage between the neutral and live wire then any other power channelled trough the earth wire would not be measured and accounted for. 12 Amps at 1000VAC would deliver 12 kW without heating the earth wire or neutral wires. This is easily done with a step up isolation transformer whose secondary 1000 VAC side is hooked on the supply side betwen earth and neutral. In my experince 99% of scientist would have not know the difference. This is the obvious first check to do by a professional and would take 5 minutes if given to a proper electrical power engineer. I am sure Bologna university electrical engineerig department could confirm that the wattmeter reading is correct ! Note: Otherwise an easy way to veryfy is to simply disconnect the earth wire during the experiment ( some safety would be require in going so by making sure no one touches the catalyser in case of an internal leak or connection between live and chassis.) Measuring power with more than two wires can easily lead to very wrong measurement of power !

It easy to send an additional 12 KW through a normal size earth wire ( 4 mm2 ) . The return current could be the comon neutral wire.

Most likely a single phase wattmeter was used and connected so as to mesures current in the live wire and the voltage between the neutral and live wire then any other power channelled trough the earth wire would not be measured and accounted for. 12 Amps at 1000VAC would deliver 12 kW without heating the earth wire or neutral wires.
This is easily done with a step up isolation transformer whose secondary 1000 VAC side is hooked on the supply side betwen earth and neutral.

In my experince 99% of scientist would have not know the difference.
This is the obvious first check to do by a professional and would take 5 minutes if given to a proper electrical power engineer. I am sure Bologna university electrical engineerig department could confirm that the wattmeter reading is correct !

Note:
Otherwise an easy way to veryfy is to simply disconnect the earth wire during the experiment ( some safety would be require in going so by making sure no one touches the catalyser in case of an internal leak or connection between live and chassis.)

]]> By: Ian Bryce http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-300 Ian Bryce Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:09:35 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-300 I need to set the record straight. I have a BSc in physics, and a BE in electrical engineering. I set out to find what if anything could have misled the 15 scientists who have seen demonstrations or read reports, and given some support to Rossi. My hypothesis is that in tests up to July 2011, the earth wire was misconnected to the active pin at the power plug, so that extra power (up to 3000 W) could be brought in without registering on the amp meter. This would power a second controller and to a second resistor in the ECAT. It would be briefly switched off should an observer approach the ammeter and put it on the earth wire. In October, the T(out) thermocouple was misplaced so that it responded partly to the primary temperature of 110C, thus inflating the output power. I believe there are NO remaining ECAT tests which show valid power gain. Full details in our Press Release at skeptics.com.au, and backup in linked supporting documents. I need to set the record straight. I have a BSc in physics, and a BE in electrical engineering.
I set out to find what if anything could have misled the 15 scientists who have seen demonstrations or read reports, and given some support to Rossi.

My hypothesis is that in tests up to July 2011, the earth wire was misconnected to the active pin at the power plug, so that extra power (up to 3000 W) could be brought in without registering on the amp meter. This would power a second controller and to a second resistor in the ECAT. It would be briefly switched off should an observer approach the ammeter and put it on the earth wire.

In October, the T(out) thermocouple was misplaced so that it responded partly to the primary temperature of 110C, thus inflating the output power.

I believe there are NO remaining ECAT tests which show valid power gain.
Full details in our Press Release at skeptics.com.au, and backup in linked supporting documents.

]]> By: andrea mazzoleni http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-299 andrea mazzoleni Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:03:48 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-299 All interesting.. "bribes to gangsters" and "A.Fox affair" apart All interesting.. “bribes to gangsters” and “A.Fox affair” apart

]]> By: jetmech http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-298 jetmech Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:19:24 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-298 if 50 amps can flow through the white and black wire then 50 amps can flow through the white or black and GREEN ground wire it is the same gauge! how do you figure the ground wire is a different gauge? have you ever done any house wiring? if 50 amps can flow through the white and black wire then 50 amps can flow through the white or black and GREEN ground wire it is the same gauge!
how do you figure the ground wire is a different gauge? have you ever done any house wiring?

]]> By: kwhilborn http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-296 kwhilborn Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:13:51 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-296 Thanks. I left a scathing comment there because of this article. Thanks for the heads up. Thanks. I left a scathing comment there because of this article. Thanks for the heads up.

]]> By: Brad Arnold http://coldfusion3.com/blog/questionable-attack-on-rossi-and-ecat-attracts-too-much-attention#comment-295 Brad Arnold Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:41:51 +0000 http://coldfusion3.com/?p=858#comment-295 From the comments on the MSNBC article (it seems worth repeating and I would appreciate any feedback on it): "It is obvious that the writer of this story doesn't have the slightest clue about electricity. In order to hide 12.5 kilowatts of energy a minumum of 50 amps of current as 240 volts would have to flow through that ground wire as well as one of the others, it does take two wires to complete a circuit. 50 amps of current flowing through that small gauge of wire would make it glow and would be very easy to detect as it would melt the insulation on the wires and short back down the length of them to the plug leaving molten dripping plastic in its wake. So my question is exactly how much money and by which oil company was the writer paid?" From the comments on the MSNBC article (it seems worth repeating and I would appreciate any feedback on it):

“It is obvious that the writer of this story doesn’t have the slightest clue about electricity. In order to hide 12.5 kilowatts of energy a minumum of 50 amps of current as 240 volts would have to flow through that ground wire as well as one of the others, it does take two wires to complete a circuit. 50 amps of current flowing through that small gauge of wire would make it glow and would be very easy to detect as it would melt the insulation on the wires and short back down the length of them to the plug leaving molten dripping plastic in its wake. So my question is exactly how much money and by which oil company was the writer paid?”

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